Pink was met with resistance when she told some members of the music community she wanted to have a family

Pink recently spoke to Zane Lowe on his Apple Music podcast, The Zane Lowe Show. One of the many topics the two discussed was family; specifically, how reluctant some in the music industry were when Pink first decided to share that she wanted to have one.

“Everyone told me, ‘If you have children right now, your career’s over.'” That’s an absurd statement regardless, but especially when you look at the trajectory of the mom of two’s career.

Pink and husband Corey Hart had their first child, Willow Sage, in 2011. Two years later in 2013, she released her hit album, The Truth About Love. The tour was the third highest-grossing tour of 2013, and she was named Woman of the Year by Billboard. She had her second child, Jameson Moon, in December 2016. In August 2017, she released her seventh studio album, Beautiful Trauma. Yup, that’s right—eight months after giving birth to her second child.

In 2018, she sang the National Anthem at the Super Bowl and was named PEOPLE’s Most Beautiful, posing with her kids for the cover.

In 2019, she received her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. I don’t think we really need to go on, do we?

“Obviously, we’re all much more complex than any of that, but when I had a child, I think it softened me to the world, the part that didn’t understand me,” she told Zane. “And I think that’s when my career began, really. I mean, I did a lot of stuff before that, but really, truly, I think it’s when I started to really understand myself and understand the world and my place in it.”

And over the years we’ve seen how the mom has seamlessly weaved her kids into her career, bringing them on the road, rehearsing with them strapped to a baby carrier on her chest, and even watching one of them blossom into an artist, herself. Willow Sage is a beautiful singer in her own right, and with a mom as impressive and supportive as Pink, it’s easy to understand how she got the support and inspiration to bask in her own light, even while the glow of her mom burns so brightly.

You can hear the entire interview when it drops on Apple Music on February 16 at 10 p.m. PST.

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